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Apr 21, 2015 16:02:25 GMT -5
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Post by Stardrifter on Apr 21, 2015 16:02:25 GMT -5
Huh! Yeah! What are they good for? Absolutely nothing!
*ahem*
Anyway, I apologize if this is posted elsewhere but I figure we need some definitive and easy to find info.
Specifically I'm looking for a timeline of mutant activity. When did mutants become general knowledge? When did they become public knowledge? I know there was a war of some kind but I forget the specifics. Or I'm remembering something before the reboot.
See, this is why we need this topic!
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Apr 21, 2015 18:14:19 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 18:14:19 GMT -5
All I know is that Apocalypse was the first mutant, and he's from the era of the pharaohs.
Maybe jelly, adrini, or Drake can tell us.
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Apr 21, 2015 21:31:35 GMT -5
Post by adrini on Apr 21, 2015 21:31:35 GMT -5
This will count as a rough draft. I expect that Jelly and Drake will have their own ideas. Jelly will have to fill in the X-men parts.
Present day - Mutants known. Some support them, citing that they do not choose this. Some point out the inherit danger of kids who completely lack control. Some call them freaks and kill them on sight. It's a *fun" time. They, as ever, make up 1% of the population. There are two major places that take such kids in for training reasons. One is The School for "gifted"students, the other is X-Factor. The first is whispered of in circles, the other is a legend not unlike the boogy-man. X-Factor is still not known.
1997- Nick Fury, as New Director, stumbles on a severely hurt Alex Summers being protected by a panicked but determined Scott Summers becomes aware of the unspoken status of mutants. Founds X-Factor on the spot to find, rescue and train young mutants.
1989- Friends of Humanity, in reaction to a series of Mutant accidents, is formed. The group goes on to have a devastating effect of Mutant life. In doing so it actually creates sympathy for the race due to the cruelty and sheer loss of life committed in the name of "defense".
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Apr 22, 2015 8:55:00 GMT -5
Post by Drake on Apr 22, 2015 8:55:00 GMT -5
I imagine mutants show up around the 60s. It's when they were created. The Civil Rights Movement (their primary influence) was at its strongest then. It's also when X-Men: First Class debuted them. That's three reasons to have them debut during the 60s. However, I am not an X-writer and it's not my decision to make.
One other thing. 1%? Historically the mutants are a rapidly growing population well over 1%. It's why M-Day happened, so Marvel editorial could cut down on the number of mutants. In fact, I don't think I've read a story where they number at 1% of the population. I guess I get the "ultimate minority" status it provides, but they're not exactly threatening as the next state of evolution if they aren't rapidly growing as a population.
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Apr 22, 2015 9:16:54 GMT -5
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Apr 22, 2015 9:16:54 GMT -5
1% is an extremely LARGE amount of the population to make mutants. That means that in our population of 7 billion there would be 70 million mutants across the globe.
It also means that any anti-mutant group or mutant-hunting sentinels would just carve a bloody swath through the world as 1 out of every 100 people would test positive for the mutant gene.
A more realistic number would be .1% or .01%. Mutants should still be a rarity. Not "<100" rare like post-M day but still rare.
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Apr 22, 2015 9:50:57 GMT -5
Post by Drake on Apr 22, 2015 9:50:57 GMT -5
In the comics pre-M-Day they were like 1/3 of the population. It doesn't have to be that much but they are the next stage in human evolution.
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Apr 22, 2015 10:08:34 GMT -5
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Apr 22, 2015 10:08:34 GMT -5
In the comics pre-M-Day they were like 1/3 of the population. It doesn't have to be that much but they are the next stage in human evolution. The only time mutants ever approached those kind of numbers in the comics was in the M-Day universe. If they were a third of the population they'd barely count as a minority anymore. You'd barely be able to fit them in one hemisphere much less a country like Genosha. EDIT: According to the numbers presented by the comics, there were an estimated 30 million mutants worldwide pre-Decimation. About half of those mutants lived in Genosha when it was massacred. Of the remaining half, all but a couple hundred were depowered post M-Day.
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Apr 22, 2015 10:28:23 GMT -5
Post by thetrueelec on Apr 22, 2015 10:28:23 GMT -5
I think they work best a small number, there can be a mention of them expanding exponentially but for it to make sense there really can't be that many of them.
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Apr 22, 2015 11:55:15 GMT -5
Post by thejellyfish on Apr 22, 2015 11:55:15 GMT -5
I always thought of it as before a certain point, there were just people who had powers and people who didn't. The main difference between Human Torch and Gambit is that one is a mutant. Before a certain point (like Adrini's mention of 1989, which I will be going with), you either hated these people with powers or you didn't, most of them were either superheroes (Golden Age heroes) or hid their powers well enough to blend into society (Xavier). Or they had a physical mutation and disappeared (Morlocks).
Then, something reveals that mutants are born that way and it opens up a whole can of worms. Much like racism or homophobia, people turn against the mutants because they are born with strange abilities, not because of the content of their individual character. And sure, before 1989 people would develop powers out of nowhere, but people chalked that up to some strange phenomenon. Example, during the "Nuclear Family" time period, when a child developed powers, doctors and scientists chalked it up to radiation. Then, it was another thing and another, and another until the Eighties, when scientists begin studying mutants closely. That would end with the reveal of the X-Gene.
There wasn't a "war" in this timeline. There was a battle between the X-Men and the Brotherhood that took place in Central Park. The Acolytes are currently attempting to start a war with the X-Men because they know humans will step in to stop both parties, and the X-Men don't want that.
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Apr 22, 2015 12:41:26 GMT -5
Post by adrini on Apr 22, 2015 12:41:26 GMT -5
I'm taking an evolutionary POV on this, using my training in genetic sciences.
We're primarily basing this off the occurrence of the x-gene mutation. All mutations occur at the activation of the effected allel or allels. Ego an 1% occurrence of this genetic mutation with the concurrent genetic code of the human race, that is the race of Homo Sapien Sapien, would act more as a rising force of a greater and growing population.
If one person in a 100 carries this generic potential, this having a 1 in 100 chance of creating a child with some one in the same, that's roughly (there is always variation) 1 in 100 births resulting in a stronger and more pronounced expression. These would be noticeable but weaker abilities to their parents non-visible ones. Mild telekinetics, affecting the temperature in a room - real but not really dangerous. It would also create powerful carriers - people with the genetic potential to create stronger mutants but are not as such themselves. Again, neither of these categories are going to get the robust attention of later forms.
Over generations, the means by which mutations grow, change or weaken, that pattern repeats. Some mutant lines die out, some stay stable, but more then a few continue to strengthen. Also as these forms become more viable concerned parents and caregivers would find help and support with others of their kind. This actually accelerates the process as the also potent offspring meet and form bonds at young ages that then lead to even stronger forms in the relationships and children that follow.
If, for example, the first examples of these genes really began to activate around the beginning the of 20th century with the rise of industrialization (ergo why so many of them are in New York or other city centers), with some doing so as early as the 1850's with centers like Lowell and Whites factory complexes in the late 19th. There would be 5-6 consecutive generations of genetic formations, or up to 8 concurrent ones. In which time these powers would not only become stronger in themselves but would, but process of genetic drift, also gain a sizable foot hold in the more general non-mutant population making the potential for mutant off spring something that by the early 2000's would be known to most people from one relation or another. Not unlike how most people have a gay friend or cousin or something now.
1 in 100 would be a starting point, painting a far more complex and involved picture that this fictional population would certainly have to content with.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:00:21 GMT -5
Post by Drake on Apr 22, 2015 17:00:21 GMT -5
I just got science'd, haha! Ok, go for it! And you're right, Dob. I was thinking of the House of M universe. My bad.
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May 24, 2015 11:28:06 GMT -5
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Post by cross on May 24, 2015 11:28:06 GMT -5
What's the reading order for x men titles here?
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May 24, 2015 11:35:44 GMT -5
Post by thejellyfish on May 24, 2015 11:35:44 GMT -5
No order to the series, just start with any of them. They're not too connected at the moment.
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