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Post by Drake on Aug 2, 2015 16:38:52 GMT -5
It was an okay issue. I appreciate the Ant-Man story being released around the movie. I'd type out more, but I'd end up basically repeating everything Star's said. So, refer to his review for more details.
7/10
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Aug 6, 2015 13:14:21 GMT -5
I stand by the technobabble. It's a scientist talking to other scientists about super-sciencey science with extra science. Science.
As far as Jan goes, she teases the others, but only because she's the least nerdy and the most "normal" of the bunch, actually enjoying things like shopping and fashion. Nerds and geeks tease each other.
As always, thanks for the reviews. I'm going to try and wrap up this ant-man arc next issue, but usually when I say that I have to stretch something to three issues or something, so we'll see.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Aug 30, 2015 19:41:54 GMT -5
New chapter up!
I really wanted to end this arc this chapter, but it didn't happen. Next time for sure.
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Post by Drake on Aug 30, 2015 22:05:40 GMT -5
I'm exhausted as I read this, so I'm just going to review it at the same time. It kinda makes sense when you consider I might forget some important things by the end of the chapter (I'm that brain dead). Sorry. I might add more later, but I want to read this now. -Fun action with the wasps. -I like how you introduced the spider. Made it almost seem like you-know-who, only to be proven to, well, not be. At all. Got more to say about that in a sec. -I will admit, the spider must be a cocky son of a bitch, because most wouldn't screw with an army of wasps and the people caught between them, even if they were hungry. It also captured Jan in a very un-spider-like manner. -Hank should probably be dead, falling down somewhere that's so deep there's no light. But I digress. This is a superhero story. -Super-spider explanation explained my previous nitpick. -"Falling from the ceiling to the floor would almost certainly be lethal." So now falling is deadly? -Fashion line was a nice nod! I would've LOLd if I wasn't half-awake. -I expected going into the issue that this would be incredibly decompressed, but the spider subplot actually provides enough story that it makes sense you need another issue to complete the arc. -Ben's dialogue in that scene didn't read like a New Yorker, but an Irish person (ironic considering the city XD) or someone else. 'Ya' is fine, but 'o'course' and 'figya' (WTF?) are odd. 'Granted' is also a very unusual thing for Ben to say. This is fairly nitpicky but also legitimate in the sense that a character's voice should be accurate, particularly one as iconic as Ben Grimm's. -Doohickey is a hick term. I know. I live in Oklahoma and have spent months in both NY and California. Ben ain't a hick. He's a Jewish Yancy Street native who's smarter than he looks and doesn't take crap from anyone. -Nice reveal tho with SHIELD. -WASP!! Perfect way to rebound after her kidnapping. 7.5/10. A fun issue. Can't wait for the next!
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Aug 30, 2015 22:18:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the review! To give a better explanation on the spider, it's a genetically engineered giant super spider and doesn't behave with normal spider instincts. The wasp robots are tiny by comparison and to the spider they only read as vaguely bug-shaped robots. Ben's voice sounded Brooklyney in my head, but accents are difficult to convey correctly, so fair criticism. I stand by 'doohickey' though. He said it in one of the animated versions I was watching while writing this, so for me it's justified. Being raised in Illinois though I know 'hick' as well though. My condolences. Admittedly the whole Hank falling thing was me writing myself into a bit of a corner. I tried to justify it in my head that he landed on some lower desk fixture, where tab A fits into slot B or something. Or maybe he fell on something behind the desk like an old twinkie or something. I don't know. Hopefully I'll remember to explain that later. I mean... Or maybe Hank's dead for realzies! Who knows? It's so suspenseful!
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Post by Drake on Aug 30, 2015 22:25:55 GMT -5
Just to clarify the spider bit too. Dob cleared it with me. It's a nod, a cameo, not a crossover. Nothing's established. Just enjoy it for what it is.
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Post by Sonny Daye on Sept 3, 2015 18:08:53 GMT -5
I felt a little lonely, so I read this chapter. Now I don't feel so lonely anymore.
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Post by adrini on Sept 3, 2015 18:21:59 GMT -5
Awww.
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Post by thejellyfish on Sept 3, 2015 18:45:57 GMT -5
I didn't really enjoy the parts with the shrunken people. I found Ben and Johnny's story lines to be way more enjoyable. Particularly Johnny. It's gonna be great seeing how he grows as this title approaches modern day.
I'm looking forward to more.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Dec 24, 2015 0:17:27 GMT -5
There is a new Fantastic Four up.
For those of you who weren't a big fan of the shrunk stuff, that part's over.
Next chapter will finally see more of Doom, so that's something to look forward to.
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Post by Drake on Dec 24, 2015 12:13:12 GMT -5
Well, F4 is entertaining as usual! The humor's on point, you're developing the romances naturally, and the cliffhanger was a lot of fun! Honestly, all around this was a great issue. It didn't blow my mind like a few previous ones, but it's still awesome. I can't wait for Doom!
8.5/10
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Feb 9, 2016 0:02:33 GMT -5
Fantastic Four #11, or alternatively Doom #1 if this were an actual comic and I could do variant covers or such, is up.
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Post by Drake on Feb 9, 2016 13:42:20 GMT -5
One of my favorite issues yet, although I did have a few problems with it.
First, just as clarification, they entered the most hostile country in the world for a doctor to fix Doom? I could buy that; I'm just curious.
Second, Doom is actually quite heroic. In fact, in this issue he isn't even an anti-hero. He's full blown good guy. I'm interested to see his fall, but I'm also nervous you're going to attempt to make him so complex that he actually comes off as good.
Last, while you haven't revealed him yet, I'm assuming I know the ID of "the Doctor." It's an interesting idea, but I hope there's some deeper reasoning for his doing a "Doctors without Borders" mission, because he's kind of known for initially being an asshole. It's like if you had Tony Stark be a philanthropist and do it to actually help, as opposed for the headlines. Then again, I might be wrong about the ID or the Doctor may be more of an ass than I'm expecting. This is less a critique and more of me voicing my opinion.
Anyway, overall I really enjoyed this issue. The plot was paced well, the threat is legitimate, and the mysteries are intriguing.
8.8/10
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Feb 9, 2016 13:53:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the review. To answer some of your questions...
1. The initial reason Lucia gave Victor was that they were here to see one of the best doctors in the world that could operate without drawing publicity. While still technically true, at this point there's a lot more to her goals than simply finding a doctor.
2. At this point in the story, Victor is still a reasonable and in many ways a good, misunderstood, and misunderstanding guy. While this definitely won't be true in the distant future, he'll never be so simplistic that he or his intentions can be simply defined as 'good' or 'evil', but by the present it will be easy for the rest of world to label him as the latter.
3. Id be surprised if you personally didn't figure out his identity. As for your question on his personality, it's a little of column A, a little of column B. He won't be Ebenezer Scrooge but he also won't be Mother Theresa.
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Post by Sonny Daye on Feb 9, 2016 16:44:39 GMT -5
Drake Who says Tony can't be a philanthropist and do it to actually help? I'll review this soon. I've got a lot on my plate today.
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Post by Drake on Feb 9, 2016 22:07:52 GMT -5
Drake Who says Tony can't be a philanthropist and do it to actually help? I'll review this soon. I've got a lot on my plate today. My intention there was pre-origin. Tony actually turns into a decent guy, as does Dob's character. They both just start off as assholes, traditionally.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 4, 2016 14:12:38 GMT -5
Fantastic Four is up!
After this chapter, next is back to the F4 storyline for a while.
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Post by Sonny Daye on Mar 4, 2016 14:52:44 GMT -5
Right off the bat, I really liked your description of the dining room. You guys made it very easy to actually see the room he was in. I felt a pang of sadness as you described the servants. C'mon, Victor...
I really liked the exposition of Latveria's history. Just as you and Drake mentioned for IIM, I think it's great world building.
I just want to mention how well-written a character Doom is. You guys seem like you know him inside an out, and I love it. It was a great idea to focus on him for a bit; he is a character who could very easily stand on his own. The "he had failed line" gave me chills.
One critique: I think the paragraphs are a little too long. I'm not saying you should shorten them. I think you should just split them. Ten smaller paragraphs would be better than five large paragraphs. It didn't really subtract from the reading, it just made it a little more daunting.
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Post by Drake on Mar 4, 2016 15:19:44 GMT -5
Another good issue, if slightly worse than the last. You know my gripes with your take on Doom (I'm really not a fan of the CEO version; it's too much like the original movies), but I like how you're developing Victor into the Doom we all know and love.
Most of the paragraphs were fine IMO, but any time dialogue is included, you should limit what's before and after it. I'm pretty sure the actual grammatical rule is that dialogue should be on its own line with only a "he said/she commanded/they yelled" type of thing, but none of us have done that, so I suppose it's not a major issue. But dialogue within a big paragraph? Yeah, definitely separate that. It looks bad and it reads worse.
Fortunov almost seems too over the top and evil, particularly when you're trying to humanize a character (Victor) who has historically been one of the baddest villains in the MU. I dunno. It just seems like you're straying away from your original statement that "pure evil villains are boring."
The plot's developing nicely, and I like how you're leaving us on a cliffhanger. The pacing is a little off compared to last issue. So much happened in #11, but #12 was pretty slow. The ending is exciting, and I'm already enjoying your take on Strange. The new origin for his broken fingers works because it's a product of his arrogance, just like the car crash. However, I question why someone as smart as Strange would agree to dinner with a madman and then insult him. I mean, I don't understand why he went to the dinner in the first place. He had to know what Fortunov was like.
Anyway, while I critiqued a lot, I did enjoy this issue. 8/10. Can't wait for more!
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Post by DiscipleofBob on Mar 4, 2016 15:30:03 GMT -5
The plot's developing nicely, and I like how you're leaving us on a cliffhanger. The pacing is a little off compared to last issue. So much happened in #11, but #12 was pretty slow. The ending is exciting, and I'm already enjoying your take on Strange. The new origin for his broken fingers works because it's a product of his arrogance, just like the car crash. However, I question why someone as smart as Strange would agree to dinner with a madman and then insult him. I mean, I don't understand why he went to the dinner in the first place. He had to know what Fortunov was like. Short reply for now since I'm leaving to run errands, but Strange didn't willingly go to dinner with a madman. He was captured. Covered last chapter.
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