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Post by Stardrifter on May 24, 2014 16:39:50 GMT -5
So with all of us hitting the ground running at the same time, we have a chance to try and tie things together right from the start. A chance to keep facts straight and continuity tight. So I propose we use this topic to post any relevant info that would affect the world at large.
i.e. Major events in the past, state of mutants in this world, famous people, organizations, etc.
I will make my own post regarding Iron Man when I'm at my computer tonight.
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Post by Drake on May 24, 2014 16:42:59 GMT -5
Already discussed some stuff with a couple others, but the only big thing I have is that during 2014 humankind launched their first manned space mission to Mars. It went wrong. More on that in GotG 1.
Speaking of continuity and worldbuilding, there's a thread I need to be making....
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Post by C_Miller on May 24, 2014 19:45:12 GMT -5
I have the War on Terror still happening in roughly the same way it happened in the real world. I also reference Vietnam.
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Post by Sister Grimm on May 24, 2014 19:52:32 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT: A teenager got bitten by a radioactive spider.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on May 24, 2014 19:55:05 GMT -5
SPOILER ALERT: A teenager got bitten by a radioactive spider. GWEN STACY?!?
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Post by Drake on May 24, 2014 19:58:47 GMT -5
That poor kid! I hope nothing bad happens to him/her!
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Post by Sister Grimm on May 24, 2014 20:15:34 GMT -5
I probably shouldn't say this because it's a spoiler, but she got cancer and, after years of chemo and drug therapy, died.
I'm very bad at origin stories.
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Post by Stardrifter on May 24, 2014 23:43:09 GMT -5
Stark Industries: A global leader in weapons technology as well as computer hardware/software. Currently run by Howard Stark. Based out of NYC but has facilities all over the world.
Hammer Industries: Stark Industries top rival. Run by Justin Hammer. Based out of Chicago.
Advanced Idea Mechanics: A.I.M. is kind of a global think tank, bankrolled by a number of the wealthiest men and women in the world. They gather the best and brightest thinkers in numerous fields and put them to work in technology and discoveries meant to better mankind.
Ultra-Tech: A company founded only 10 years ago. It's risen from nothing to one of the top ten technology companies. Most of it's success has been in home computer, cell phone, and tablet development. It's UltrOS operating system has just recently surpassed Windows and Android in the mobile market.
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Post by thejellyfish on May 25, 2014 3:56:27 GMT -5
Magneto's dead. Sorry guys. You'll see why I claimed him. But he's pretty much dead
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 4:17:04 GMT -5
Sorcerer Supreme - A ceremonial title held by the greatest Sorcerer in the Dimension. Currently, the official mantle, and the objects and power that comes with it, is unfilled. The Daughter of the previous Sorcerer Supreme currently searches for the true Master of Mystic arts.
Winding Way - An unofficial grouping of Magic practitioners. Similar to the Hellfire Club. They meet regularly in Cambridge, England.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 4:29:41 GMT -5
Sorcerer Supreme - A ceremonial title held by the greatest Sorcerer in the Dimension. Currently, the official mantle, and the objects and power that comes with it, is unfilled. The Daughter of the previous Sorcerer Supreme currently searches for the true Master of Mystic arts. Winding Way - An unofficial grouping of Magic practitioners. Similar to the Hellfire Club. They meet regularly in Cambridge, England. The Mystical Divide - When the former Sorcerer Supreme went missing, a great mystical upheaval spread through the world. Practitioners of traditional magic, and more alternative natural sources, found themselves struggling to maintain their power levels. This might be an issue for me, since Agence Byzantine's power traditionally is based on their access to magic, most of their agents are fortified my magical charms/tools, and their access to divination magic gives them leverage in the scheme of things. I claimed them with that in mind and they play a key role in the way the plot unfolds in Secret Defenders. I also have Lord Pumpkin claimed as a villain, and he is a powerful sorcerer, whose appearance in the first issue is the catalyst which sets my whole story into motion. They are major antagonists through the whole planned story of my title and their access to magical power is an engine that drives my story forward. Taking magic out of play like is a major monkey wrench that would require a major reworking of several key elements in the story, and takes the heart of what I wanted to do out of it. Without them and their magical abilities, I pretty much have no story as the conflict at its core is gone, as is my interest in telling that particular story and this particular title. I know it's a core element to the story you want to tell, and I respect that, but it may be that the story you want to tell and the one I want to tell cannot co-exist in the same shared sandbox, in which case I would bow out and let you tell your story out of respect that you had it planned before the reboot and my arrival. -M
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 4:54:16 GMT -5
OK, MRP. I'm not taking Magic out of play completely, I'm not sure where you quite got that impression from, perhaps I was a bit vague in my statements. Essentially, those who were super-duper powerful need to work a bit harder to maintain their previous power levels, but traditional magic, and alternative magical sources all exist and can be used/are used by magicians. It's just putting a bit more effort into maintaining higher levels of magical activity.
Magic still exists, and can be used by Agence Byzantine or Lord Pumpkin and through the use of magical charms/tools/books etc. I'm not removing it, nor will it be going anywhere, it's just me setting up something that happened with Ol' Strange did a runner.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 5:11:27 GMT -5
That's cool, it's just that to me saying practitioners are "struggling to maintain power levels" implies a depowering of magic on a larger scale. If it's not, then I am cool with it, but it was a ripple effect in a shared sandbox I wasn't prepared to deal with.
I'm just a little gun-shy from having most of the titles I have started get derailed when I have had to shift major elements to fit other people's schemes only to have them drop titles/become vaporware members and leave me with a title that wasn't what I set out to write initially. It happened with just about every title I had the first go around at UDC, and with the titles I did after the reboot, and I pretty much promised myself this time I wasn't going to start something I couldn't finish due to that. So, I would rather not start this time than have it happen again. It was one of the major reasons I was reluctant to return to writing in a shared sandbox like this even though I had a story I wanted to tell.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 5:33:45 GMT -5
OK - Well, you know what? I'll just take that part out. It's not essential to my story - it was just setting something up - it can easily be used without depowering/making it more difficult for magic people to do their thing. So, I will remove it. No skin off my nose.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on May 25, 2014 6:18:32 GMT -5
A timeline of when heroes became active would be helpful.
Nothing extremely specific, just to make sure that I'm not doing origin stories in the same year that Spider-Man is retiring or stuff like that.
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Post by Stardrifter on May 25, 2014 9:26:02 GMT -5
Iron Man is not active yet.
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Post by Sister Grimm on May 25, 2014 9:37:46 GMT -5
Spider-Man's been around for maybe half a year on the outside.
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Post by Drake on May 25, 2014 10:01:21 GMT -5
Mine are all in space, so no one needs to worry about them.
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Post by DiscipleofBob on May 25, 2014 10:02:15 GMT -5
Iron Man is not active yet. What about Stark? Does he still build weapons for SHIELD and/or others?
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Post by C_Miller on May 25, 2014 10:32:18 GMT -5
My first issue is going to be Alpha Flight's first mission and none of them were active heroes on patrol prior to that or at least not in the public eye. The twins (Northstar & Aurora) have been saving people and stopping crimes since they were in their teens (They're in their early 20s now). There have been others doing similar things, but the media and government treat them as if they're in the same category as UFOs and Guardian Angels and what not to conceal their existence from the public.
Actually knowing kind of when everyone is popping up will help me frame my first arc. Will a team of superheroes be a big deal to the world or just to Canada? Like have there been a lot of heroes around the world for years and these will just be the first public Canadian heroes or will Alpha Flight be a part of a new age of heroes?
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Post by Stardrifter on May 25, 2014 14:20:18 GMT -5
Iron Man is not active yet. What about Stark? Does he still build weapons for SHIELD and/or others? Stark Industries was founded during WWII by Richard Stark. They've been making weapons for the government ever since.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 16:31:10 GMT -5
What's the deal with being in continuity here? I didn't see anything in the rules. Does a title have to have so many issues out before it is considered in continuity like the old UDCU (it was 6 issues back then)? Or are events considered "in continuity" for a title from the get go? It doesn't matter which way the question is answered to me, just that I know what the answer is.
It's not a huge deal, but it does have an impact on some of the world building aspects people are discussing here. Also related-if a writer puts out an issue or two than vanishes-does what they establish stand or will a new writer get tabla rasa if they take over-because using world building elements that disappear and get changed midstream can be killer, but having to deal with someone who bails' leftovers can make certain properties unattractive. It's a double edged sword, but it would help to know which way the wind blows when planning things and considering how to approach the material being presented in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 16:50:29 GMT -5
As to how long characters have been active.... Ulysses Bloodstone has been active since at least the dawn of history. There have been Black Panthers, Iron Fists, and Fists of Khonshu (not necessarily T'Challa, Danny Rand, or Marc Spector) for centuries, but their activities are not always public knowledge Namor has been active since at least the WWII era-that's when his first "public" appearances took place. Oracle Inc. is a multinational but Namor's ties to it are unknown. Its primary focus is on green technologies. Ka-Zar and Zabu have been in the Savage Land since it was first discovered, and for some reason they do not seem to age. Shanna came later but has not aged since she got there. Marc Spector discovered an unknown Egyptian crypt during one of the recent uprisings in Egypt and it changed his life... Fu Manchu has been active at least since the early 20th century. Agence Byzantine has roots going back o the Byzantine Empire at least, hence the name. The Nexus of Realities has always been, but not always been known T'Chaka is the current king of Wakanda as of issue 1 Shang Chi is the dutiful son of Fu Manchu as the story opens The gate to K'un Lun only opens once every 10 years, it just opened a few months ago and a young Danny Rand emerged back to our world after disappearing to K'un L'un as a boy a decade ago. Rand Industries has been run by a family friend since Danny and his parents disappeared. The Zodiac Cartel is a secret society whose origins are clouded in myth and legend, but urban myths indicate their history goes back at least a few centuries though its membership has continually changed. Members do not make their membership public, and not even other members know who is behind the sign at times. Man-Thing just is...no one is quite sure how or why. He/she/it/they seem to be tied to the Nexus somehow. Misty Knight and Colleen Wing established Knightwing Restorations when they graduated college (they were college roommates) bankrolled by Professor Wing and an unknown benefactor. This was three years ago or so... Jessica Drew is a deep cover agent, but for who and how long she has been active...no one is quite sure... Wakandan and Atlantean tech is quite advanced-but not available on the market and they are quite protective of their proprietary tech. This has created no end of enemies among multinational industries. An example of Wakandan tech- mobile humanoid AI units called Mechanical Replicant Persons or MRPs want more....read the book! -M
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Post by DiscipleofBob on May 25, 2014 18:25:59 GMT -5
Current plan is as follows:
SHIELD has been an international peacekeeping organization since just after WWII, but it's existence has only been divulged to the public in 2002 in response to the 9/11 attacks. It's activities and active roster still remain classified though.
Officially SHIELD is funded by multiple governments but technically doesn't have to answer to anyone. That being said, SHIELD still has to play by the rules for the most part or risk losing all their funding.
SHIELD has many different branches and ongoing operations, most of which are compartmentalized to the point where Nick Fury is likely the only one who knows the full picture at any point in time.
HYDRA has been active since WWII, but they've been scattered for decades with many leaders in charge of branches all over the world.
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Post by Drake on May 25, 2014 22:18:47 GMT -5
Six issues to be in continuity. That's what it takes.
Try not to tie too deeply together because, as mrp mentioned, it's very possible people will drop out.
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Post by thejellyfish on May 26, 2014 14:24:13 GMT -5
The X-Men first appeared a year and a half ago, stepping in to stop a riot caused by anti-mutant citizens. The school opened it's doors to the public a day later, and a large amount of mutants relocated to the school.
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Post by adrini on May 31, 2014 19:59:46 GMT -5
Team code named XF, consisting of a four man team, has been active for three years. They are a sting and grab team, and their mere existence is denied by the government and SHIELD alike. All contact with other group(s) or individuals have been denied or non-disclosed. Rumers suggest, but do not confirm, that the team in mutant in nature.
In universe they answer to Nick Fury alone, and through him Maria Hill.
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Post by All Star Silentking on May 31, 2014 23:18:01 GMT -5
Deadpool got his powers one year after Wolverine escaped Weapon X and has been a mercenary five years before that. Other details will be filled in Deadpool #1 which is basically just me letting the reader know everything you need to know about Deadpool and the tone of the series.
Greek Gods have actually existed and so have Ares and Hercules. Hercules likes to hang out in Las Vegas where the party never ends. He and Ares are both sexist, though Ares recognizes that women can be powerful warriors due to being the God of War.
Hate-Monger's identity and origin will be revealed in Deadpool #6 "The Time I killed Hitler (Wait, Seriously?)". Swarm is a Nazi scientist from WWII who got turned into a bunch of sentient immortal bees due to a failed experiment. Whoever has Cap, feel free to have it that you fought Swarm before.
Dreadpool is the Deadpool who has made it his life mission to destroy all of life's existence do to the belief that being a hero is just nothing but endless torture and pain. He is also the Deadpool from Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe and Deadpool Killustrated and the main villain in Deadpool Kills Deadpool. It is not essetinal reading to read any of that but the events of them will be mentioned, especially Deadpool Kills Deadpool.
T-Ray is Wade Wilson. Or is he? In any case, he is a mercenary who claims that his real name is Wade Wilson and that Deadpool stole it.
Agent X is a mystery... Actually, I have no idea what his origin is. He was originally gonna be a villain way down the line (Enough time to learn more about him than what I already know), but I moved him to supporting role due to Taskmaster already being taken. In any case, he is a mercenary with unknown ties to Deadpool.
Outlaw is a mercenary who sometimes hangs out with Deadpool. One of the few people who can tolerate him without the need to outright kill him. She is also a mutant, though she prefers to keep that a secret.
Weasel is the expert hacker/mission control guy who makes sure that Deadpool doesn't mess around to much and makes sure that he gets the jobs he needs. He used to be freelance, but then Deadpool kidnapped him.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 23:22:21 GMT -5
Shouldn't any use or mention of Wolverine as part of your backstory have to wait until Alpha Flight is in continuity? There's no official story for Wolvie in this universe yet, and if for some reason Miller takes an entirely different direction with the character or worse stumbles on the book and drops it, and someone else comes in and claims Wolverine things could change...
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Post by All Star Silentking on May 31, 2014 23:24:29 GMT -5
I just won't mention Wolverine in the story.
Edit: All Deadpool knows is that Weapon X had a cure for his cancer and he ended up as a regenerating freak.
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